[Gramps-users] Full place hierarchy does not show in narrated Web site report

Discussion:

Gramps genealogist

2017-07-08 21:01:31 UTC

I have just started using places hierarchically in Gramps, which is an
excellent feature of the software.

It would be helpful if the full hierarchy displayed in the Places
list on a narrated Web site.

Here is a full hierarchy shown within as an event on Gramps:

30, Navarino Road, Hackney, London, United Kingdom

30 is the house number so I have defined it as building. In the places
list on the narrated Web site, the place name is listed just as:

30 [P0156]

It would greatly help usability of the Places list if the full
hierarchy was shown. In this way, the entry for 30 Navarino Road
would be:

30, Navarino Road, Hackney, London, United Kingdom [P0156]

And the full record on the Web report would look like this:

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30, Navarino Road, Hackney, London, United Kingdom [P0156]

Gramps ID P0156
Latitude 51.534157
Longitude -0.0737904
Street Navarino Road
City London
Country United Kingdom

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This suggestion goes against the idea of "Enclosed by" but the
Places list on the Web report would be more helpful in terms
browseability

J. Allen Crider

2017-07-09 02:16:06 UTC

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I saw on another e-mail that you are using version 4.2.2. This might be
a good reason to consider upgrading. I am using version 4.2.5 and the
narrated web report it generates appears to me to be what you want. If
you want to see an example from version 4.2.5, you can check out my
family website at http://www.cridermcdowellfamily.com/genealogy/index.html
There is still room for improvement (such as including the place type),
but it is better than version 4.2.2.

Allen Crider

Post by Gramps genealogist
I have just started using places hierarchically in Gramps, which is an
excellent feature of the software.
It would be helpful if the full hierarchy displayed in the Places
list on a narrated Web site.
30, Navarino Road, Hackney, London, United Kingdom
30 is the house number so I have defined it as building. In the places
30 [P0156]
It would greatly help usability of the Places list if the full
hierarchy was shown. In this way, the entry for 30 Navarino Road
30, Navarino Road, Hackney, London, United Kingdom [P0156]
---
30, Navarino Road, Hackney, London, United Kingdom [P0156]
Gramps ID P0156
Latitude 51.534157
Longitude -0.0737904
Street Navarino Road
City London
Country United Kingdom
---
This suggestion goes against the idea of "Enclosed by" but the
Places list on the Web report would be more helpful in terms
browseability
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Gramps genealogist

2017-07-09 09:50:58 UTC

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Thank you, fortunately there is an Ubuntu version of 4.2.5 maintained
outside the official Ubuntu distribution I use. I have installed this
and the Places list now works exactly as you describe.

For Ubuntu Xenial users who are content to use backports the
maintainer's Web page is here:

https://launchpad.net/~rosco2/+archive/ubuntu/backports

On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 21:16:06 -0500

Post by J. Allen Crider
I saw on another e-mail that you are using version 4.2.2. This might
be a good reason to consider upgrading. I am using version 4.2.5 and
the narrated web report it generates appears to me to be what you
want. If you want to see an example from version 4.2.5, you can
check out my family website at
http://www.cridermcdowellfamily.com/genealogy/index.html There is
still room for improvement (such as including the place type), but it
is better than version 4.2.2.
Allen Crider

Post by Gramps genealogist
I have just started using places hierarchically in Gramps, which is
an excellent feature of the software.
It would be helpful if the full hierarchy displayed in the Places
list on a narrated Web site.
30, Navarino Road, Hackney, London, United Kingdom
30 is the house number so I have defined it as building. In the
places list on the narrated Web site, the place name is listed just
30 [P0156]
It would greatly help usability of the Places list if the full
hierarchy was shown. In this way, the entry for 30 Navarino Road
30, Navarino Road, Hackney, London, United Kingdom [P0156]
---
30, Navarino Road, Hackney, London, United Kingdom [P0156]
Gramps ID P0156
Latitude 51.534157
Longitude -0.0737904
Street Navarino Road
City London
Country United Kingdom
---
This suggestion goes against the idea of "Enclosed by" but the
Places list on the Web report would be more helpful in terms
browseability
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Dave Scheipers

2017-07-09 12:24:19 UTC

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You also said you assign the type Building to the number of the street
address.

In this scenario you correctly show that the comma is added between the
number and the street name; 30, Navarino Road, Hackney, ....

Setting the Preference/Places enable "Suppress comma after house number",
and making the number record having the Type = Number will remove the
comma; 30 Navarino Road, Hackney, ....

The suppression only works when Type = Number.

Of course, you are free configure your database as you see fit.

Dave

On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 5:50 AM, Gramps genealogist <

Post by Gramps genealogist
Thank you, fortunately there is an Ubuntu version of 4.2.5 maintained
outside the official Ubuntu distribution I use. I have installed this
and the Places list now works exactly as you describe.
For Ubuntu Xenial users who are content to use backports the
https://launchpad.net/~rosco2/+archive/ubuntu/backports
On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 21:16:06 -0500

Post by Gramps genealogist
I have just started using places hierarchically in Gramps, which is
an excellent feature of the software.
It would be helpful if the full hierarchy displayed in the Places
list on a narrated Web site.
30, Navarino Road, Hackney, London, United Kingdom
30 is the house number so I have defined it as building. In the
places list on the narrated Web site, the place name is listed just
30 [P0156]
It would greatly help usability of the Places list if the full
hierarchy was shown. In this way, the entry for 30 Navarino Road
30, Navarino Road, Hackney, London, United Kingdom [P0156]
---
30, Navarino Road, Hackney, London, United Kingdom [P0156]
Gramps ID P0156
Latitude 51.534157
Longitude -0.0737904
Street Navarino Road
City London
Country United Kingdom
---
This suggestion goes against the idea of "Enclosed by" but the
Places list on the Web report would be more helpful in terms
browseability
------------------------------------------------------------

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Gramps genealogist

2017-07-09 12:34:46 UTC

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Thank you for this helpful suggestion, I have now changed those entries
to number which makes more sense (fortunately I only had a few). I
hadn't spotted that option and suppression of the comma matches the
standard format of addresses

On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 08:24:19 -0400

Post by Dave Scheipers
You also said you assign the type Building to the number of the street
address.
In this scenario you correctly show that the comma is added between
the number and the street name; 30, Navarino Road, Hackney, ....
Setting the Preference/Places enable "Suppress comma after house
number", and making the number record having the Type = Number will
remove the comma; 30 Navarino Road, Hackney, ....
The suppression only works when Type = Number.
Of course, you are free configure your database as you see fit.
Dave
On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 5:50 AM, Gramps genealogist <

Post by Gramps genealogist
Thank you, fortunately there is an Ubuntu version of 4.2.5
maintained outside the official Ubuntu distribution I use. I have
installed this and the Places list now works exactly as you
describe.
For Ubuntu Xenial users who are content to use backports the
https://launchpad.net/~rosco2/+archive/ubuntu/backports
On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 21:16:06 -0500

Post by J. Allen Crider
I saw on another e-mail that you are using version 4.2.2. This
might be a good reason to consider upgrading. I am using version
4.2.5 and the narrated web report it generates appears to me to
be what you want. If you want to see an example from version
4.2.5, you can check out my family website at
http://www.cridermcdowellfamily.com/genealogy/index.html There is
still room for improvement (such as including the place type),
but it is better than version 4.2.2.
Allen Crider

Post by Gramps genealogist
I have just started using places hierarchically in Gramps,
which is an excellent feature of the software.
It would be helpful if the full hierarchy displayed in the
Places list on a narrated Web site.
30, Navarino Road, Hackney, London, United Kingdom
30 is the house number so I have defined it as building. In the
places list on the narrated Web site, the place name is listed
30 [P0156]
It would greatly help usability of the Places list if the full
hierarchy was shown. In this way, the entry for 30 Navarino Road
30, Navarino Road, Hackney, London, United Kingdom [P0156]
---
30, Navarino Road, Hackney, London, United Kingdom [P0156]
Gramps ID P0156
Latitude 51.534157
Longitude -0.0737904
Street Navarino Road
City London
Country United Kingdom
---
This suggestion goes against the idea of "Enclosed by" but the
Places list on the Web report would be more helpful in terms
browseability
------------------------------------------------------------

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paul womack

2017-07-10 08:04:24 UTC

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Post by Gramps genealogist
Thank you for this helpful suggestion, I have now changed those entries
to number which makes more sense (fortunately I only had a few). I
hadn't spotted that option and suppression of the comma matches the
standard format of addresses

They could (of course) be found easily using the filter/regular expression:

^\d+$

BugBear

Gramps genealogist

2017-07-11 05:29:01 UTC

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Many thanks that's a handy regexp!

On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 09:04:24 +0100

Post by paul womack

Post by Gramps genealogist
Thank you for this helpful suggestion, I have now changed those
entries to number which makes more sense (fortunately I only had a
few). I hadn't spotted that option and suppression of the comma
matches the standard format of addresses

^\d+$
BugBear