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[Gramps-users] Use of name-fields in Gramps for Dutch patronimic names (not familynames)
Reinier Smeets
2011-10-02 15:10:11 UTC
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In parts of the Netherlands familynames were not commonly used until about
1800. In addition to the given name (e.g. "Jan") the given name of the
father is mentioned ("Pieter" , "Pietersen" or "Pieterszn").

His son "Bart" would be referred to as Bart Jansen or Bart Janszn.

Which field is most appropriate for this name-part, referring to the father
of the person?

I hope to receive some suggestions on the use of the possibilities in
Gramps.



Reinier Smeets
Rogier Visser
2011-10-02 15:48:48 UTC
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This is called the patronym (patroniem). I always make it part of the
given name. For instance, one of my ancestors is called Sjoerd
Folkerts Visser, so in the field "Given" I enter "Sjoerd Folkerts",
including the patronym, and in the field "Surname" I enter "Visser".

There are advanced naming options in Gramps (multiple surnames and
types, including patronyms) but I don't need this, and my solution has
no disadvantages (that I'm aware of or encountered).

Best,
Rogier
Post by Reinier Smeets
In parts of the Netherlands familynames were not commonly used until about
1800. In addition to the given name (e.g. “Jan”) the given name of the
father is mentioned (“Pieter” , “Pietersen” or “Pieterszn”).
His son “Bart” would be referred to as Bart Jansen or Bart Janszn.
Which field is most appropriate for this name-part, referring to the father
of the person?
I hope to receive some suggestions on the use of the possibilities in
Gramps.
Reinier Smeets
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Michiel Nauta
2011-10-02 20:49:11 UTC
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Hi,

Older versions of Gramps had a special entry field for patronymic. This
was replaced by a system that allows multiple surnames in version 3.3 of
Gramps that was released this year. So if you used such an older version
of Gramps, the patronymic name is transformed into a surname with origin
"patronymic" in the new version of Gramps. I am going to stick to this
way of working. So I would enter "Folkerts" as a surname with origin
"patronymic". But as Rogier indicates, you are free to use Gramps in the
way you like.

Michiel
Post by Rogier Visser
This is called the patronym (patroniem). I always make it part of the
given name. For instance, one of my ancestors is called Sjoerd
Folkerts Visser, so in the field "Given" I enter "Sjoerd Folkerts",
including the patronym, and in the field "Surname" I enter "Visser".
There are advanced naming options in Gramps (multiple surnames and
types, including patronyms) but I don't need this, and my solution has
no disadvantages (that I'm aware of or encountered).
Best,
Rogier
Post by Reinier Smeets
In parts of the Netherlands familynames were not commonly used until about
1800. In addition to the given name (e.g. “Jan”) the given name of the
father is mentioned (“Pieter” , “Pietersen” or “Pieterszn”).
His son “Bart” would be referred to as Bart Jansen or Bart Janszn.
Which field is most appropriate for this name-part, referring to the father
of the person?
I hope to receive some suggestions on the use of the possibilities in
Gramps.
Reinier Smeets
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